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Rajar Q2 is out on the 24th, hits the stations tomorrow. So how do you think the show (The Chris Moyles Show) has done? An increase in listeners ?
I've had to listen to Radio 2 at work for a while and I cannot believe that anything on that boring station can get any ratings at all and therefore believe that the show will beat Wogan with no worries, if it doesn't then its a crime! - The music on r2 is just repeated over and over but in a way that I actually notice, whereas I don't so much on R1. The talk is just boring! - the debates after lunch time are just silly, they were talking about speed cameras and stuff the other day, its just an excuse for people to have arguments which is just ridiculous as they are pointless too - in my opinion :p (that of course makes me immune to any come backs so ... ner!)
edit: I just got majorly confused - one of the songs which is on the daily playlist for R2 just came on Listen Again which made me think twice, its a nice song though - Kid Rock - All Summer Long.
edit 2: bleedin hell! - just after the song finished Chris said that people on the texts were saying that R2 are playing it - well I could have told you that! :p
postie
23-07-2008, 07:07 AM
comon moyles
Are figures THAT important anymore? We've added over 2 million listeners, are now the biggest show in the UK and beyond.
Not an attack - just a genuine question, should we not focus on figures as much? A part of me thinks argument is now won. We've proved ourselves.
(and no, I'm not saying this because I know of any impending bad news :) )
In a way figures show how poplar the show is witch can be good but does it not vary from day to day witch makes it harder to get the right amount anyway I don’t think figures should mater I think the content and quality of the show should come first
Uh-oh, there's rumours that I may have had a premonition without realising it.
We'll know all the detail tomorrow.
Andrew80
23-07-2008, 08:05 PM
Its the recession - people can no longer afford to listen to the radio - its a luxury!
Uh-oh, there's rumours that I may have had a premonition without realising it.
We'll know all the detail tomorrow.
I don't like the sound of it, I don't really care about ratings and figures but I think they are quite useful to show people how great the show is - to gain more listeners etc
As I play about on 4 local radio stations I know that people put far too much emphasis on one set of figures. I think that it's a stupid way to measure figures in this day and age. You would think there would be a much more hi tech way of measuring volumes of listeners than writing stuff in a book!
Mitchell
23-07-2008, 10:32 PM
Yeah, the figures are poorly calculated, and the BBC shouldn't really care anyway - they don't have advertisers to answer to. They're public service broadcasters - it's the public who matter; not listenerships, demographs etc.
A great show with 2 listeners is better than a bad one with 10.
A great show with 2 listeners is better than a bad one with 10.
so true
Ajayrious
24-07-2008, 01:10 AM
Uh-oh, there's rumours that I may have had a premonition without realising it.
We'll know all the detail tomorrow.
Wasn't it this time last year that listening figures went down and it was blamed on the weather?
Yudster
24-07-2008, 09:46 AM
Don't they always go down at this time? I'm sure I remember someone saying that last year. And Wogan has lost listeners too, so it's clearly not just you!
Unfortunately that was quarter 3 not 2.
Saying that though, everyone had a huge bump up in the last quarter so in my eyes this quarter is just readjusting after that.
Yudster
24-07-2008, 07:50 PM
I reckon you're right. And maybe Q3 will buck the trend again.
postie
25-07-2008, 07:08 AM
its the credit crunch people have had they radios repossessed
Andrew80
25-07-2008, 10:47 AM
damn right! radio repo depot!
Ajayrious
25-07-2008, 11:05 AM
I just think the way they do the figures is crap anyway. The way i understand it ... if just one person who was watching last quarter, has stopped listening for some reason. Then that can cost you like 100'000 listeners or something. Its rubbish.
Mitchell
25-07-2008, 01:19 PM
I just think the way they do the figures is crap anyway. The way i understand it ... if just one person who was watching last quarter, has stopped listening for some reason. Then that can cost you like 100'000 listeners or something. Its rubbish.
And it's not like everyone tells the truth anyway.
I know stories of people getting questionaires, surveys, diaries etc, and lying either due to memory or to buck the system.
I would have to say I was one of the sort of lost ones lol never got to hear much of the shows being off and not having time to listen again once every so often I did but now im back to hearing the shows live or on listen again just depends on if I am out of bed by 6am or 12-6pm:p im being rather lazy
Mitchell
25-07-2008, 08:05 PM
I also admit, I don't listen live anymore, due to being off uni until September. I listen via listen-again instead.
But then no one from Rajar asked me.
Ajayrious
25-07-2008, 09:15 PM
I also admit, I don't listen live anymore, due to being off uni until September. I listen via listen-again instead.
But then no one from Rajar asked me.
Yeah, i havent listened live for over a year.
But if Rajar asked me i would lie :P
Aimee
25-07-2008, 09:27 PM
i dont know why this Rajar thing doesn't ask everyone in the uk instead of a few random people.....(if thats how they do it) i dont think you can get a fair outcome doing what they do :icon_neutral:
ture but its un likely that they will
Ajayrious
25-07-2008, 09:31 PM
i dont know why this Rajar thing doesn't ask everyone in the uk instead of a few random people.....(if thats how they do it) i dont think you can get a fair outcome doing what they do :icon_neutral:
I would have thought that this would be too expensive. i think a much better way would be to simply put a little chip in each radio to record what a person listens to.
130,000 people are asked across the year to keep a diary of what the listen to
VivAyrshire
26-07-2008, 12:42 PM
How do you become involved?
postie
26-07-2008, 01:07 PM
i don't get how the figures works from that plus i have never heard of anyone i know doing these so called diary's
Mitchell
26-07-2008, 01:25 PM
Every diary represents a certain percentage of the population.
I imagine something like 1 diary equals 500 listeners or something.
postie
26-07-2008, 03:52 PM
Every diary represents a certain percentage of the population.
I imagine something like 1 diary equals 500 listeners or something.
now thats just silly so really they dont know the actual figure for how many listners that the show has when its just an estimate and not an actual
do they do the same for the tv then ?
yes, it's the same for tv
postie
26-07-2008, 04:46 PM
thats crazy and where are these target areas cause i have never heard of people doing these diary's before
130,000 people are asked across the year to keep a diary of what the listen to
That is a ludicrously small number. I've already had my say about this on Cm.net, in this day and age why are we using such an outmoded system? Surely there is a more accurate and efficient way of monitoring listeners?
Mitchell
26-07-2008, 11:36 PM
Like what?
Andrew80
26-07-2008, 11:36 PM
That is a ludicrously small number. I've already had my say about this on Cm.net, in this day and age why are we using such an outmoded system? Surely there is a more accurate and efficient way of monitoring listeners?
I am sure digital radio can be measured more accurately via sky or the serivce provider - aled i assume they dont add in Listen again etc?
There is another system which is a set top box for TV where you have to input how many people are in the room watching a programme. Surely something like that would be possible.
Oh and Postie my little brother had one of the diaries years ago, it was to monitor the success of S4C
Quality of the shows great. Listeners added, and It was bound to go down at some point!
thats crazy and where are these target areas cause i have never heard of people doing these diary's before
You wouldn't, it's kept secret because if it got back to the radio sations who had them then they'd be open to abuse.
Oddly I seem to remember me being asked to fill one in when I was MUCH younger in Wales. Didn't understand what they were then or how important they were.
Was it for S4C like my little brother?
Aimee
27-07-2008, 11:28 AM
hmmm i just dont see why they dont do a questionnaire type think, granted not everyone would bother filling it out but surely that would get slightly more accurate results? :)
postie
27-07-2008, 11:46 AM
ah right i see
well i want one :)
Well, RAJAR doesn't take listen again figures do they?
Has there been a drop in all shows and stations? This could be due the recent iPlayer v.2 with the uupgraded listen again.
How are the listen again figures?
Console
29-07-2008, 08:19 AM
The way i understand it ... if just one person who was watching last quarter, has stopped listening for some reason. Then that can cost you like 100'000 listeners or something.
You don't understand it correctly - they give out about 130,000 diaries, which means every diary represents less than 500 people. To lose half-a-million listeners there'd have to be one-thousand less diaries with Moyles in them - a non-insignificant figure (1 in 130 diaries less, 7 in 130 still do).
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